Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Schmidtville, California

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The result was redirect to El Cerrito, California. It's up to editors whether to merge anything from the history. Sandstein 08:54, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Schmidtville, California

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No evidence that this was a community. Durham says there was a post office called Schmidtville two miles from Stege from 1900 to 1901 but as we've seen multiple times, a post office is not certain evidence of a community. GNIS has no record of a community (or anything else) named Schmidtville in the county. I don't get any hits that say anything more than it was a post office. Does not meet basic notability criteria. Glendoremus (talk) 20:41, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:05, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 21:05, 3 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ Weak Keep because Schmidtville had a post office. There are differing opinions about post offices and notability. In my opinion, the post office satisfies #1 of WP:GEOLAND. 9 trivial articles in newspapers.com searching for "Schmidtville Contra Costa", here are the better ones: "farmers of Schmidtville," runaway bride married at Schmidtville - mentions George W. Schmidt, postmaster and owner of a "large part of Schmidtville", building lots available at Schmidtville, article (really an advertisement) for Schmidt's Village, picnic held by socialists at Schmidtville. Schmidtville is not listed in the current list of Richmond Neighborhood Councils. I did not check Google Books. If it weren't for the post office, I'd go with delete as the coverage is fairly trivial. Cxbrx (talk) 15:55, 7 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have a different opinion about what "legally recognized" means, but it seems like I've not been very successful about convincing others of my view, so I'm changing this to a Weak Keep so as to not block consensus. Cxbrx (talk) 13:54, 16 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect/merge to El Cerrito, California. There was an extremely small community with this name once and it was merged into El Cerrito when that was incorporated. From [1]: "Rust was one of several villages to grow up in what is now El Cerrito, which at various times also included the settlements of Gallagher, Stege, Stege Junction, Gills, McAvoys, Schmidtville, and others. Many of these settlements were nothing more than a railroad stop and a handful of houses and most of these names have long since fallen out of use." Trying to write an article on the basis of very brief passing mentions in newspapers, which the current article tries to do, will quickly run foul of WP:NOR. Unless there's something more substantial out there it's not much more than a footnote in the history of El Cerrito, and I suggest we mention it briefly in the history section of that article, along with the other settlements it swallowed up. Hut 8.5 16:10, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:18, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Redirect as a former unincorporated community that has since merged with a city. ~EDDY ^{(talk/contribs)}~ 15:16, 12 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Yet another erroneous GNIS designation. Post offices are not indicators of passing WP:GEOLAND because they are not legal recognition and in the context of a RR station a post office may be tied only to postal rail functions and not to a populated place. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 22:02, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: It makes no real difference to me (or most any reader of Wikipedia) if this article is kept or whether the content is merged into the history section of El Cerrito, California, with a redirect. Just as long as the content is kept.--Milowent • ^hasspoken 20:44, 18 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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